Appendix D.  Trade Directories and Navy Agents          

 

Information about TOULMINs from trade directories at London Guildhall.

Researched for and supplied by Edith Meredith.

 

NOTES

 

   Sections are numbered for reference, each section representing (more or less

certainly) one individual Toulmin.

   Where anyone can be identified, perhaps tentatively, in my catalogue, I have

quoted details from the notes there that bear on the identification.  ? indicates a

lack of direct evidence, ?? a lack of any real evidence at all (ie, a guess).

Selected entries are quoted in full; repetitions with minor differences indicated by

the +... following (the one quoted is the fullest, not necessarily the first).   I

have not commented on hangovers like the retention of ***3111367 Abraham in 1822Un

three years after his death, which are to be expected.

   A key to the abbreviations is given after the list, followed by an index of

street names and their locations.  Where they differ from modern names, a note is

added after the directory entry.

   "Names of Merchants" 1677, Kent 1736, and others to 1752 contain no Toulmin.

   There are no entries in the list from 1844 to 1852.

 

1. ABRAHAM TOULMIN *132, b. about 1703, d. before 1 May 1778

The fact that his son turns up at the same address (2) makes the identification

fairly safe; Flood's suggestion (p.7) that the son was christened in Hackney in 1738

I believe to be a mistake.  (His sons William (41),*1321 and Samuel (33),*1322

emigrated to Hackney and the City, leaving Abram to carry on the business.)

..Surgeons: Toulmin, Old Gravel lane, Wapping                              1763U

[Old Gravel Lane is now Wapping Lane.]

 

2. ABRAHAM (Flood) or ABRAM (Burke) TOULMIN *1325 (bap.9 Jan 1750, d. 1 Nov 1821).

The dates and the one occurrence of "Abram" seem to identify him fairly surely,

though there is no evidence that this one "lived in Southampton St Bloomsbury"

(Flood: probably the same confusion that makes Burke refer to *13223 Abraham TOULMIN

as "Of Southampton St, Bloomsbury, Surgeon").  However, I suspect later entries

refer to his nephew *13223.   Note the "& sons" in 1817: *13223 had 3 sons, of whom

we know *132231 and *132235 were surgeons.

..Apothecary: Toulmin, Abraham, 31 Old Gravel Lane                         1791U

                                                             +1790U,1793U

..Surgeons: Toulmin, Abraham, Old Gravel Lane                              1796F

  +1802H(Old Gravel Lane,Ratcliff),1809H(Old Gravel Lane,Shadwell),1805H,

  1808H,1811H,1817Un,1822Un

[According to London/1862, Wapping was the correct address for Old Gravel

Lane, but Shadwell and Ratcliff are very adjacent.]

..Toulmin, Abram, Surgeon 31 Old Gravel Lane                               1800H

..Toulmin & Sons, Surgeons & accouch. 31 Old Gravel Lane, Wapping          1817J

      +1818J,1820R(& son, Surgeons etc),1822R(& son, 156 Old Gravel Lane)

[London/1813 marks 31 Old Gravel Lane on the east side (TQ 3484:8033), 15 m S of the

modern vicarage of St Peter's, which appears to coincide with no. 34.  None of the

old houses remains in this area. 156 was across the road but is not clearly marked;

it may have been on the corner of the modern Chandler St (TQ 3482:8037).  This site

is now occupied by a Health Centre.]

 

3. ABRAHAM TOULMIN *132231, 1795-1880 or ABRAHAM TOULMIN *13251

The former seems much more likely, as he is the only Abraham Toulmin we positively

know was active then, and he was admitted MRCS 4 Jul 1817 (Med.Dir. 1846); but the

son of (2) is a possibility.  The first entry is just after the Old Gravel Lane

entries stop.

 

..Toulmin, A. Surgeon, 4 Mansell st, Goodmans flds                         1823R

                                               +1826R,1827Pi,1828Pi,1830R

..Members Royal College of Surgeons: Toulmin Abraham, Mansell st           1826R

[Mansell St in 1813 and 1862 was the middle part only of the modern Mansell St E1:

from Alie St (or Gt Ayliff St) to (Gt) Prescot St.]

..Toulmin, Abrhm, Surgeon 6 New London St, Crutched friars                 1832Pi

    +1831R,1832R,1833R,1833Pi,1834R,1835R,1836R,1836Pi(Toulman,Abraham ),1838R

[Same as the modern New London St in London/1813, though just "London St" in

London/1862.  No. 6 was on the E, half-way up.]

..Toulmin, Abraham, physician 36 Bedford Sq  [Toulmin, Dr in Court Guide]  1842R

                                                  +1840R(A.),1841R(Abrhm)

 

4. ABRAHAM TOULMIN ***3111367, d. 1819 (ME/IGI).

See the note on Navy Agents following (50).  23 Surrey St was the address for R. and

A.Toulmin;  Abraham was living "opposite" around 1806 (PRO PROB37/355), which should

have been about no. 18 (London/1813).  Was Hart St another professional address?

Later at 7 Southampton St (his address is given as "Southampton Street" in Will

dated 1818), but the business was carried on from Surrey St.  This is the Abraham

Toulmin who d. 1823 in Southampton Street: see (2) above!  I can only suppose

"Alexander" to have been an error (perhaps "Abrm" read as "Alex").  Despite the

1810K etc entries, the partners were Abraham Toulmin & Richard Copland from 1806.

..Toulmin, R & A. Navy Agents, 23  Surrey St, Strand                       1800H

                                   +1801H("Soho"),1802H,1808K,1809K,1810K

..Toulmin, R & A. Army Agents, 23  Surry St, Strand                        1808H

                                                   +1805H("33" Surrey St)

..Toulmin, Abraham, Navy Agent, 2 Hart st. Bloomsbury                      1802H

                                                             +1805H,1808H

..Toulin, A. Esq, 2 Hart st. Bloomsbury                                    1805H

                                                             +1808H,1809H

[Hart St is now Bloomsbury Way]

..Toulmin & Copland Navy agents 23 Surry st. Strand                        1809H

           +1811H,1817J,1817Un,1818J,1819R(Copeland),1820R(Copeland),1822Un

..Toulmin, Rd. & J.Copland Navy agents 23 Surry st. Strand                 1810K

                                                 +1812K,1813K,1814K,1815K

[John Copland, 23 Surrey-st, Strand is listed as a Navy Agent in British Almanac,

1842 and 1843.]

..Toulmin, Abraham, navy agent, 7 Southampton st Bloomsb.                  1819R

..Toulmin, Alexander, Esq.  7 Southampton st Bloomsbury                    1817Un

                                                                  +1822Un

[Southampton St is now Southampton Place.]

 

5. MRS TOULMIN, nee SIMPSON

Margaret SIMPSON dau. of Samuel Simpson (ME), of Lancaster, d. 4 July 1850, Doughty

St, London (ME/IGI).  Widow of  Abraham Toulmin, d. 1819 (4).  Her son Samuel

Simpson Toulmin (34) moved into 8 Doughty St shortly after her death.

..Toulmin, Mrs, 8 Doughty st.                                              1833R

                                                                   +1840R

 

6. ANN TOULMIN (Mrs) (widow of Samuel Toulmin, **13216, no. 35)

A Codicil to Samuel's will provided that his widow should have the option to

continue to live in his house in Knightsbridge, of which the Lease was left to his

son Joseph Petty Toulmin (**132163, no.20), and she appears still to have been

paying him rent for it towards 1828 (App.H).

..Toulmin, Mrs Ann, Knightsbridge   [Private section]                      1811H

 

7. AUGUSTUS TOULMIN *132159, b. 29 June 1812, d. 30 Aug 1901.

See Appendix M.

..Toulmin, A. Wine Merchant, 19 Abchurch la.                               1838R

..Toulmin, Augustus, Wine Merchant, 25 Coleman St                          1841R

                                              +1839R(Aug),1840R(A),1841PO

..Toulmin, Augustus, 7 North Terrace, Alexander Sq., Kensington            1841PO

..Toulmin, Augustus, Wine Merchant, 18 Threadneedle St                     1843R

                                               +1844T(23 Threadneedle St)

..Toulmin, Augustus, 27 Harewood Sq, Marylebone                            1851PO

..Toulmin, Augustus, Wine Merchant (of Linklater & Toulmin)                1852Wa

            15 Great St Helens Bishopsgate            

..Toulmin, Augustus, Wine Merchant (of Linklater & Toulmin)                1853Wa

            15 Great St Helens Bishopsgate  & 117 & 269 Wapping High St.

..Toulmin, Augustus, Wine Merchant, 15 Great St.Helens                     1855Wa

                                                                  +1861PO

 

8. A. TOULMIN  ?same as above.

His private address was 27 Harewood Sq, Marylebone on his wife's death in July 1851,

but he may have moved soon after: Blenheim Rd was only a mile down the road.  The

1861 census for Blenheim Rd has no Toulmins.

..Toulman, A esq. 17 Blenheim road, St Johns Wood           [Court Guide]  1853Wa

 

9. CALVERT TOULMIN  *13215A,  b. 9 Jan 1815,d. 22 April 1886.

Evidently taken into partnership by his elder brother when he was 23: see Henry

Heyman Toulmin (18).

..Toulmin, Hy & Calvert Ship & insur. brokers and general agents,          1838R

 8 George yd Lombard St.

                                           +1839R,1840R,1841R,1843R,1844T

..Toulmin, Henry & Calvert, ship & insurance brokers & general agents,     1852Wa

            31 Great St Helens, Bishopsgate street

                                                    +1851PO,1853Wa,1854Wa

 

10. C. TOULMIN ??Charles Toulmin, *132114 1798 - 11 Nov 1821

The identification seems unlikely,but I don't know any other possibilities.

..Toulmin, C.  grocer and tea dealer, 221 Rotherhithe st.                  1820R

 

11. E.P. TOULMIN [see next]

 

12. EDWARD PELLEW TOULMIN ***31113673, 1807 -1887

The name "Pellew" identifies the 1852-4 entries as ***31113673, and the 13 Old Jewry

address (shared with his brother ***31113671, see 34 below) the 1832 ones. The

connection with Toulmin & Dunlop was initially a guess, but JMH found Toulmin &

Dunlop listed at 13 Old Jewry in London Annual Dir. 1832 (Guildhall).

..Toulmin & Dunlop, ship & insurance brokers, 68 Old Broad st.             1830R

                                                         +1831R(ship brokers)

..Toulmin, E.P. & co.  Insurance brokers, 13 Old Jewry                     1832R

..Toulmin & Co. brokers, ship 13 Old Jewry                                 1832Pi

                                                                  +1833Pi

..Toulmin, F.P. merchant 23 Mincing Lane                                   1837R

[per JMH: perhaps not the same, but no F.P.Toulmin is known]

..Toulmin, Edward Pellew, solicitor, 10 New Inn, Strand                    1852Wa

                                                      +1853Wa(solicitors)

..Toulmin, E.P. Esq, 10 New Inn, Strand                     [Court Guide]  1854Wa

                                                          +1855Wa(Ed. P.)

[New Inn has been replaced by the east end of Aldwych.]

 

13. E. TOULMIN  ?*132113 Edward TOULMIN 1794 - 1850

He was b. 27 Sep 1794 at Ware, and was later Farmer, Corn merchant and Master

Maltster at Puckeridge; but he was nephew of Nathaniel (23), so perhaps started a

business the latter took over.

..Toulmin, E. Coal merchant, Hackney Terrace                               1819R

[Hackney Terrace was in Hackney, on the south side of Cassland Rd.]

 

14. FRANCIS TOULMIN  *132154, b. 14 Feb 1803, d. 13 March 1884

Of Upper Clapton, FRCS, of Guy's Hospital.  The second Toulmin in "Toulmin, Hacon,

and Toulmin", 1828-1833, could have been either Francis or Frederick (15).  As

Joseph Toulmin (21) d. 1847, the "Toulmins" in 1855 were presumably Francis and

Frederick.

..Toulmin, Hacon & Toulmin, surgeons, Mare st. Hackney [under Middlesex]   1828Pi

                                                           +1832Pi,1833Pi

..Toulmin, Frs, surgeon, Loddiges bldgs Hackney                            1835R*

[Prob. = Loddiges Terrace (London/1862), E. of Church St/Mare St between Darnley Rd

& Devonshire Rd, now Brenthouse Rd.]

..Toulman, Francis, surgeon, Mare St, Hackney                              1836Pi

                                       +1836R(Toulmin,F),1838R(Toulmin,F)

..Toulmin, Francis, surgeon, Lower Clapton                                 1844T

..Toulmins & Hacon, surgeons, 11 Mare St, Hackney                          1855Wa

 

15. FREDERICK JUSTUS TOULMIN  *132151 b. 22 Dec 1798, d. 4 Feb 1883

Of Clapton, Middx, and of Thurloe Sq, Kensington, FRCS.  The second Toulmin in

"Toulmin, Hacon, and Toulmin", 1828-1833, could have been either Francis (14) or

Frederick.

..Members Roy.Coll.Surgeons: Toulmin, F. Justus, Hackney                   1826R

..Toulmin, Hacon & Toulmin, surgeons, Mare st. Hackney [under Middlesex]   1828Pi

                                                           +1832Pi,1833Pi

..Toulmin, Frederick, surgeon, Upper Clapton                               1844T

                                                             +1843R(Fred)

..Toulmin, Fred. Esq, 11 Mare St, Hackney                   [Court Guide]  1855Wa

..Toulmins & Hacon, surgeons, 11 Mare St, Hackney                          1855Wa

 

16. GEORGE TOULMIN

The entry does not say "Innkeeper", but I presume that is implied. There were few

Georges among the London Toulmins. Cannot be *13218 George Hopper TOULMIN, who was

25 in 1805 and must have been in the Navy. There is also George Toulmin of Preston,

Prest*4, bapt. Lancaster St Mary, 25 Jan 1784, son of John Toulmin and Milcah; but

he "subsequently became a farmer" near Preston.

..Toulmin Geo. King's Arms, Upper East Smithfield                          1805H

                                                                   +1808H

[Upper East Smithfield is now just East Smithfield, the former Lower East Smithfield

having been absorbed into "St Katherine's Way".]

 

17. HENRY TOULMIN *132122, 1799 - 1838

From details in LLL it seems almost certain this attorney was the second son of

William Wilton Toulmin (38), who d. 29 Aug 1838.  Note also the "R Toulmin,

Solicitor, 6  Furnival's Inn" also given in 1835R, 1836R (27), whom I cannot

identify with certainty.

..Toulmin, Henry, attorney.   15 Furnival's Inn, Holborn                   1832Pi

                                                 +1833Pi,1834R(Solicitor)

[Furnival's Inn was on the north side of Holborn, between Brooke St and the end of

Leather Lane.]

..Toulmin, H.  solicitor, 1 New Boswell Ct, Carey st.                      1835R

                                                                   +1836R

[New Boswell Court was on the south of Carey St, and has now vanished under the

Royal Courts of Justice.]

..Toulmin, Henry,  Attorney, 6 Furnival's Inn                              1836Pi

                                                       +1838R(H),1839R(H)

 

18. HENRY HEYMAN TOULMIN *132156 b. 18 Jan 1807, d. 13 June 1871.

"Henry Heyman Toulmin was a shipowner, but none of his three sons cared to come into

the business."  In partnership with his brother Calvert (9) from 1838.  "In 1843 the

Admiralty commissioned Henry and Calvert Toulmin to organize a monthly mail service

to Sydney"; but "by the 1860s P & O had control of Australian overseas mail" ("The

British Empire", BBC TV Time-Life Books no. 79, per BC-T).  I have a copy of the

agreement, dated 10 Oct 1843, and subsequent letters relating to it dated 15 Nov &

16 Dec 1844 (per DG); advertisements that appeared in the Times, 18 Nov 1843 (per

BC-T); an article "The Toulmin Packets 1844-48" by Capt. T.G.S.Ward, from nos.162-4

of an unidentified journal (concerned with mail rather than ships).

..Toulmin, Hy   ship broker, 4 Austinfriars                                1830R

                                                       +1831R,1832R,1833R

..Toulman, Henry  broker, ship, 10 Austin friars                           1832Pi

                      +1833Pi,1836Pi(Toulman,Hy  ship & insurance broker)

..Toulmin, Hy & Calvert, ship & insurance brokers and general agents,      1838R

            8 George Yard, Lombard st

                          +1839R,1840R,1841R.1843R,1844T(Henry & Calvert)

..Toulmin, Hy & Calvert, ship & insurance brokers and general agents,      1852Wa

            31 Great St Helens, Bishopsgate street

                                                    +1851PO,1853Wa,1854Wa

[George Yard was their address in the 1843 agreement, but their letter of 15 Nov

1844 was dated from 31 Great St Helens]

 

19. JOHN TOULMIN   Unidentified: b. about 1760?

Unlike the other Toulmins listed in 1798 as members of liveries (33, 35, 40), John

really was a cooper with a small c.  He was apprenticed to Charles Rich, Rotherhithe

on 5 Aug 1777 and made free by him on 7 Feb 1785 (when he registered as mark I T

with a heart between).  John Toulmin of Wapping Wall in turn took as apprentice

William Sarginson or Sargeson, on 4 Oct 1785, who was made free by Josh. Sarginson,

not by John himself, in Dec 1798.  (Guildhall MS5636/2, MS5630.)  Listed as Member

of Livery of Cooper's Company in 1792 London Liverymen (JMH); "abroad" about 1801-2

(Fothergill).  Possible identifications:

  a. John Toulmin of Minster, I. of Sheppey m. Maria Britain of same 5 Aug 1801

     (Canterbury Marr. Lic. 1781-1809 per JMH).

  b. John Toulmin bur. OGL 9 Apr 1806.

  c. John Toulman lost a son George in 1808 and himself d. in 1812, survived by

     another son, Anthony: see App.B, section 4c.

..Toulmin, John [no address or occupation] was a member of [livery of]     1798U

             Coopers' Co.

..Toleman, John, cooper, Bridgewater, Somerset                             1811H

[vol.II p.140, per JMH.  Perhaps not the same, but the spelling is a not uncommon

variant, see App.B section 2b]

 

20. JOSEPH TOULMIN  ?=**132163 Joseph Petty TOULMIN 1764 - 1839

This seems to be the only possibility. The listing is as a Private Resident and

obviously (21) did not live in the City.  See also (43).

..Toulmin, Mr Joseph, 12 Bearbinder lane, near the Mansion House           1805H

[Bearbinder Lane is now the part of Mansion House Place running east.]

 

21. JOSEPH TOULMIN *13215, b. 8 Jan 1772, d.15 Nov 1847.

Of St John's, Hackney, MRCS (Burke).  Of 10 Mare St, London E.1 (JMH); but 11 is the

only number given in the directories (see (14,15)).  The second Toulmin in "Toulmin,

Hacon, and Toulmin", 1828-1833, could have been either Francis or Frederick.

..Toulmin, Joseph, surgeon, Mare St, Hackney                               1808H

                +1802H(Mere St),1805H(Jos.),1817Un,1822Un,1823R(MRCS),1826R

..Toulmin & Hacon, surgeons & apothecaries, Mare St., Hackney              1819R

..Toulmin, Hacon & Toulmin, surgeons, Mare st. Hackney [under Middlesex]   1828Pi

                                                           +1832Pi,1833Pi

..Toulmin, Josh.  Surgeon,  Mare St.  Hackney                              1841 R

                                                             +1843R,1844T

 

22. JOSEPH TOULMIN  **1321634 Joseph TOULMIN 1818 - ?

1861 census, 14 Torrington Villas, Chelsea:

  Joseph Toulmin    Head       Wid.  43  Wholesale fancy stationer  b.London

And described as "Dressing Case mfr of 18 Size-lane, City" in 1862.  These seem

reasonable developments of " Pkt book mfr":

..Toulmin, Jsph & co  pocket book ma. 18 Sise la, Bucklerbury              1855Wa

                                           +1853Wa(J, pocket book manuf.)

Toulmin & Gale, mfr. dispatch boxes, travelling cases etc, Size Lane & 7 New Bond

St, "established London 25 years" (ad., PO directory 1864).

         

23. NATHANIEL TOULMIN *13216, 1773 - 1848

Nathaniel's father *1321 William TOULMIN 1738 - 1800, M.D., surgeon & historian, was

"of Hackney", and also of Mare St according to 1800 directory (41).  Nathaniel was

"of Spackman's Buildings, Hackney" in 1817 (but d. in Church St, Hackney).  Note

(14), possibly his nephew.

..Toulmin, Nathaniel, coal merchant, Mare st. Hackney [Middlesex section]  1828Pi

              +1836Pi(Toulman),1836R(Nathl),1838R,1839R,1841R,1843R,1844T

..Toulmin, Nathl. coal merchant  Spackman's buildings, East,               1832Pi

                                            Kings Cross, Hackney  +1833Pi

"Richmond-terrace, formerly Spackman's Buildings", at corner of Darnley-road (Clarke

p.51); shown on London/1862 on E side of Church St [now Mare St] between Pleasant Pl

[Paragon Rd] & Darnley Rd.  Presumably "Kings Cross" was the Richmond Rd/Darnley Rd

crossing.

 

24. OLIVER TOULMIN ***311133, 1721 - 1783

Though there seems to have been some confusion about Oliver Toulmins (see also the

note under **13218), the identity of this one is certain.  The Toulmin & Mohringk

records cease just when Oliver appears individually, and ME90 notes "Navy agent with

Thos. Mohringk Wormwood St London before 1761" (Wormwood St is off Old Broad St &

T.G.Mohringk, Wormwood St is still listed as a Navy Agent, separately from

O.Toulmin, in Kal/1797). See the note on Navy Agents following (50).   Though the

Lisle St address first appears in the year he died, he is described as "of Lisle St"

in Burke s.v. "Blencowe" (see Appendix O).   His name seems to have been retained

for a few years.

..Toulman & Mohringk, Merchts. Old Broadstreet                             1753K

                                                 +1754K,1755K,1755C,1758C

..Toulmin & Mohringk, Merchts. Old Broadstreet                             1759K

                                                            +1760U,1763CC

..Toulmin, Oliver, Mercht, Crutched Friars                                 1761K

 +1763K,1763U,1765K,1765C,1767C,1768K

..Toulmin, Oliver, Crutched Friars                                         1763C

                                                                   +1767C

..Toulmin, Oliver, Mercht. No.37 Crutched Friars                           1767K

   +1768K,1768NC,1769K,1769P,1770K,1770NC,1771K,1772K,1772NC,1772L,1774K,

   1775NC,1774L,1775K,1776K,1776CP,1777NC,1778K,1779K,1779CP,1780K,1781K,

   1782K,1783K

..Toulmin, Oliver, navy agent, 37 Crutched Friars                          1779L

                                                       +1780L,1781L,1782L

..Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, navy agents, 37 Crutched Friars       1783NC

..Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, navy agents, 10 Listle Street,        1783L

  +1783Ba,1785L                                         Leicester square       

..Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, Merchants, 10 Listle Street,          1784Ba

  +1785K,1786K                                          Leicester fields       

[I presume "Listle St" was the modern "Lisle St": the directories have the t

consistently, though none of the maps have.]

 

25. OLIVER TOULMIN  ***3111363, 1755 - 1844

Nephew of (24): the one who married *13211 Charlotte Toulmin. Bapt. 8 July 1756;

Admiralty contractor and Navy Agent, of Essex St, Strand and Ware, Herts; 2nd son of

Abraham TOULMIN of Myreside in Cartmel, Lancs.  See the note on Navy Agents

following (50).

..Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, navy agents, 37 Crutched Friars       1783NC

..Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, navy agents, 10 Listle Street,        1783L

  +1783Ba,1785L,1786L(Richard & Oliver only),1790W,1794W Leicester square      

[See note above about Listle St]

..Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, Merchants, 10 Listle Street,          1784Ba

         Leicester fields      +1785K,1786K,1785Ba(Richard & Oliver only)

..Toulmin, Richard & Oliver, navy agents, 16 Essex st.                     1787L

            +1788L,1789L,1790U,1790L,1790Ba,1791U,1792U,1793U,1796U,1797U

..Toulmin, Richard & Oliver, merchts & navy agents, 16 Essex st., Strand   1788K

                                      +1789K(R & O),1790A(R & O,merchnts)

..Toulmin, Oliver, mercht & navy agent, 16 Essex st., Strand               1791K

                                      +1792K,1793K,1794K1796F,1797K,1798K

..Toulmin, Oliver, navy agent, 16 Essex st., Strand                        1791L

                                     +1792L,1793A,1793L,1794L,1795L,1796L

..Merchants: Toulmin, O. 16 Essex st, Strand                               1794B

                                                                   +1795B

[Also in Kal/1797]

..Nobility, gentry etc: Toulmin, Oliver, Esq. 16 Essex st                  1792U

                                                             +1793U,1798U

 

26. OLIVER HUGHES TOULMIN *132112, b. 7 Apr 1793, d. Apr 1874.

See also Appendix M and the note on Navy Agents following (50).

..Toulmin, O.H., music seller, 7 Park pl. Lambeth                          1822R

                                                                  +1824Pi

[Park Place seems to have vanished: it ran to the west from the southern end of

Carlisle St, now Carlisle Lane, SE1.]

..Toulmin, O.H., music and musical instrument seller, 6 Surry place,       1823Pi

                                                      Kennington Green.

[Kennington Green was the southern end of the modern Kennington Road, from

Kennington Lane to Kennington Park Road, but I have not found Surrey Place there.]

..Toulmin, Oliver Hughes (professor & teacher) 4 Kennington Rd.            1832Pi

                                                                  +1833Pi

..Toulmin, Oliver Hughes, professor of music, 18 Newington Place,          1836Pi

                                                      Kennington Rd

               +1839R(O.H.),1840R(O.H.),1841R(O.H.),1844T(O.H., musician)

[On the 1862 map there are two Kennington Roads, now Kennington Rd SE1 & 11 and

Kennington Park Rd SE11.  Newington Place was on the east side of the latter, and

Newington Place Mews behind it is now De Laune St.]

 

27. R TOULMIN :see (30), (31).

 

28. RICHARD TOULMIN ***3111332  b.about 1761, d. 8 Feb 1818       

This must have been the son of Oliver (24):  see the note on Navy Agents following

(50).

..Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, navy agents, 37 Crutched Friars       1783NC

..Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, navy agents, 10 Listle Street,        1783L

  +1783Ba,1785L,1786L(Richard & Oliver only),1790W,1794W Leicester square      

[See note under Oliver about Listle St]

..Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, Merchants, 10 Listle Street,          1784Ba

  +1785K,1786K,1785Ba(Richard & Oliver only)             Leicester fields       

..Toulmin, Richard & Oliver, navy agents, 16 Essex st.                     1787L

            +1788L,1789L,1790U,1790L,1790Ba,1791U,1792U,1793U,1796U,1797U

..Toulmin, Richard & Oliver, merchts & navy agents, 16 Essex st., Strand   1788K

                                      +1789K(R & O),1790A(R & O,merchnts)

..Toulmin, R. & A. Navy Agents, 23 Surrey st. Strand                       1800H

  +1801H(23 Surrey st,Soho),1802H,1808K(Rd & A, Surrey st),1809K(Rd & A),

  1810K(Rd & A)

..Toulmin, R. & A. Army agents 33 Surrey st. Strand                        1805H

                                                     +1808H(23 Surrey st)

..Toulmin, Richard esq.- 23 Surrey st.                          [Private]  1800H

                      +1805H(Rich),1808H(Rich),1809H(Rich),1811H(Richard)

 

 

29. ROBERT TOULMIN  **13213, b. 1717 (Flood, p.3); bapt. 6 Dec 1717 (LDS).

There can be no doubt that Robert Toulmin of Gravel Lane was the "prosperous

soapmaker, whose forebears had lived for many years in Westmoreland", the father of

George Hoggart Toulmin, b. Southwark, Surrey, Sep. 1754; and the reference to

Westmoreland gives a strong presumption that he was the son of the Rev. Thomas

Toulmin of Ravenstonedale, confirmed by the will of his brother John (**13211).

About 1789 the business was taken over by William Toulmin (40), his second son, but

Robert was still alive in May 1803.  See under (40) for a short history.

..Toulmin, Robert, scale maker, Gavel Lane, Southwark  [sic]               1768NC

..Toulmin, Robert, soapmaker, Gravel lane, Southwark                       1769P

           +1770NC(Rob),1772NC(Rob),1772L(Gavel),1774L(Gavel),1775NC(Rob)

..Toulmin, Robert, soap maker, Bank side, Southwark                        1779L

                                                                   +1780L

 

30. R TOULMIN (unidentified)

Possibly (31) before he moved to Grays Inn? But see note under Henry Toulmin (17).

..Toulmin, R. solicitor  6 Furnival's Inn                                  1835R

                                                                   +1836R

 

31. ROBERT TOULMIN **1321631, 1802 - 1862

The eldest son of **132163 Joseph Petty Toulmin;  Articled Clerk 1818; stated in his

stepmother's will (1840) to be "of Verulam Buildings, Grays Inn"; "late of Staple

Inn Middx" at his death.

..Toulmin, R., esq., Verulam Buildings                      [Court Guide]  1840R

[Verulam St, WC1 adjoins Gray's Inn]

..Toulmin, Robert, solicitor (of Chester, Toulmin & Chester),              1852Wa

                                   11 Staple's Inn, Holborn                  

                                                    +1851PO,1853Wa,1855Wa

..Toulmin, Robt. esq. 18 Robert st, Hampstead rd.           [Court Guide]  1855Wa

                                   & 11 Staple Inn, Holborn

[The site of Staple's Inn is now Staples Inn Buildings. Robert St in 1862 was only

the eastern part of the modern street, between what is now Stanhhope St and

Hampstead Rd.]

 

32. ROGER TOULMIN ***3111752 bap. 26 Feb 1782, one of twin sons of Thomas Toulmin

    Innkeeper & Elizabeth his Wife of Bolton le Sands

Identified by probate of father's will as mercer of New Bond st, 1812. See also

(44).

 

..Toulmin, Roger, tailor & mercer, 44 New Bond st.                         1809H

                               +1811H(tailor),1814K(taylor),1815K(taylor)

..Toulmin,R. woollen draper, 44 New Bond street                            1817Un

                                         +1817J(& hos),1818J(& hos),1822Un

                               Also Post Office Directory, 1810 (per Bond)

 

33. SAMUEL TOULMIN *1322, bap.31 Jan 1741, d. 15 Aug 1809

Of East Place Lambeth, Attorney, Common Councillor for Walbrook Ward.  I think  all

these entries must refer to this Samuel (except perhaps the "Toulmin & Booth" ones

in 1795-6); according to probate of his Will he was "formerly of Walbrook in the

Parish of Saint Stephen Walbrook London but late of East Place in the Parish of

Saint Mary Lambeth in the County of Surry".  Stevens apparently kept on the name for

a couple of years after Samuel's death.  Note that a John Dickson was his son-in-law

(husband of *13222 Sarah Toulmin): possibly a coincidence.

..Toulmin, Samuel, Attorney, Bishopsgate street                            1765K

                                                    +1767C(no occupation)

..Toulmin, Samuel, Attorney, no.72 Bishopsgate street within               1767K

              +1768K,1768P,1768NC,1769K,1770NC(S.),1770K,1771K,1772NC(S.)

..Toulmin, Samuel, Attorney, 14 Walbroke                                   1779L

  +1781L,1782L,1783L,1783NC,1783Ba,1784Ba,1784L,1785L,.1786L,1787L,1788L,

  1789A,1789L,1790U,1790A,1790L,1791L,1791U,1792L,1793A,1793U,1794L,

  1795L,1796F,1796L,,1797U

[Variously Walbrooke,Wallbrook, and from 1786 the modern Walbrook]

..Toulmin & Booth, Attornies, 5 Bishopsgate-within                         1795B

                                                                   +1796M

..Law: Attorneys: Toulmin & Dickson*, 14 Walbrook                          1796U

              *Practices in both King's Bench & Common Pleas

                   +1797L,1798L,1799L,1800H(Toulmin S. & J.Dickson),1800B

..Toulmin, Samuel, Walbrook, Attorney, was a member of the (livery of)     1798U

                         the Barber's Company.

[Also Kal/1797, p.234]

..Toulmin & Dickson, 3 Charlotte Row, Mansion House                        1802B

                                                        +1802H(Attorneys)

[Charlotte Row was the road immediately west of the Mansion House, which now seems

to be part of Walbrook.]

..Toulmin & Dickson, 30 Walbrook                                           1804B

..Toulmin, Saml. solicitor, 30 Walbrook                                    1805H

                                                                   +1808H

..Tounlim, Saml. Attorney, 3 East Place, Lambeth                           1805H

                                                                   +1808H

[East Place was on Kennington Rd, near the present Lollard Place, which in 1862 was

"Little East Place".]

..Toulmin & Stevens, Attornies, 30 Walbrook                                1809H

..Toulmin & Stevens, Solicitors, 30 Walbrook                               1809K

                                           +1810K,1811H,1811K,1812K,1813K

 

34. SAMUEL SIMPSON TOULMIN ***31113671, 1802 -1871

Solicitor. "London directories give his address as 13 Old Jewry (1827), 14 George

St, Mansion House (1843), 10 George St, Mansion House (1844), 1 New Sq, Lincolns Inn

(1852), 8 Doughty St, Mecklenburgh Sq (1855)" (ME). Note the change to "Barrister"

between 1844 and 1852: he was admitted to Gray's Inn on 11 Jan 1844. 

..Toulmin, Saml. Simpson, solicitor, Temple Chambers                       1827Pi

                                                                  +1828Pi

..Toulmin, Saml. Simpson, Attorney, 13 Old Jewry                           1832Pi

                                           +1833Pi,1836Pi(Samuel Simpson)

..Toulmin, S.S. Solicitor, 13 Old Jewry                                    1831R

                    +1832R,1833R,1834R,1835R,1836R,1838R1839R,1840R,1841R

..Toulmin, Sam. S. solicitor, 14 George st Mansion House                   1843R

                                       +1844T(Saml.Simpson, 10 George st)

[George St was the road on the east of the Mansion House, now part of Mansion House

Place.]                                                                 

..Toulmin, Samuel Simpson, New Sq., Lincoln's Inn                          1851PO

..Toulmin, Samuel Simpson, barrister, 1 New Square, Lincoln's Inn,         1852Wa

      8 Doughty street, Mecklenburgh square

                                    +1853Wa(Sam.Simpson),1855Wa(4 New sq)

..Toulman, Samuel S. esq. 8 Doughty st                      [Court Guide]  1852Wa

  +1853Wa(Toulmin,8 Doughty st. Mecklenburgh sq),1855Wa(ditto & 4 New sq)

 

35. SAMUEL TOULMIN **13216, b. 1725, d. 1803

bapt. 25 Nov 1725 (LDS), who  married Ann, dau. of Rev. Sylvester Petty (Flood,

p.3), seems a near-certainty for this Samuel; probate of his Will shows he was "of

the Strand" before moving to Knightsbridge.  The change of number from 28 to 27,

about 1779, seems to be authentic, as both occur in many directories.  I have

ascribed the 1798 reference to this Samuel as it was clearly not the attorney of

Walbrook, listed as a Barber, nor Samuel Simpson Toulmin, b.1802.

..Toulmin, Samuel, Watch & Clock maker, Strand                             1765K

 +1767C(no occupation),1767K,1768K,1768NC,1769K,1770NC,1770K,1771K,1772NC

..Toulmin, Samuel, watch & clock maker, 28 Strand                          1769P

     +1772K,1772L,1774K,1774L,1775K,1775NC,1776K,1777NC(Sam.),1778K,1779K

..Toulmin, Samuel, watch & clock maker 27 Strand                           1779L

                        +1780K,1780L,1781K,1781L,1782K,1782L,1783NC,1783L

[Possibly also 1784L,1785L: the note is ambiguous]

..Toulmin, Samuel, Knightsbridge, no occupn - member of                    1798U

                                            (Livery of) Joiners'

 

36. SAMUEL TOULMIN (unidentified)

Does the entry imply "Innkeeper"?  (cf. George Toulmin, (16) above).  *13214, *13221

are outside possibilities, as we know little about either.

..Toulman, Sam.   White Bear, 2 Upper Thames st.                           1811H

  Four baptisms at St. Andrew-by-the-Wardrobe, which is only about 50 yards from 2

Upper Thames St, are probably related to him, anyway: Mary Ann (29 Sep 1805), George

(1 Jul 1810), Ann (1 Sep 1811), all "of Samuel and Ann", and Samuel (23 Nov 1806)

"of George and Ann" (a brother?). All are given as "Toleman" (IGI per BC-T).

 

37. SARAH TOULMIN  *132234  1800 - ?

*132235, Wilton Toulmin, Asst. Surgeon of the 58th, who died in Ceylon in 1832, left

what little he had to his sister Miss Sarah Toulmin "of Camberwell ...  as she

requires it the most of my relatives"; and their mother, Mrs Sarah Toulmin, moved to

Camberwell from Old Gravel Lane at some date after 1828.  One or both jointly were

probably running the Academy below.  Other Sarah Toulmins (Miss or Mrs) alive in

1832-3 were:

  Sarah Wright 1783 - 1863, widow of (38), mother of Camilla Toulmin: LLL and

Crosland seem to rule out the possibility that she ever had an Academy in Albany

Rd, though she did consider starting a day-school in Clapham Rd about 1826

(Crosland, p.338).

  Sarah Jemima Brodie Harper 1811 - 1889: m. *132156 Henry Heyman Toulmin (18) only

on 18 Jan 1833, so not "Toulmin" in 1832.

  One former Miss Toulmin whose date of death is unknown:

  Sarah Toulmin (*1323), b. 1742, m. Nathaniel Sergeant. (Most unlikely to be

running an Academy under her maiden name at the age of 91.)

..Toulmin, Sarah, Academy, 7 Albany Rd                                     1832Pi

                                                                  +1833Pi

[Most of the 15 present-day Albany Rds did not exist in 1862, but Albany Rd SE5

(Camberwell) is on London/1862.  If it had been constructed in 1832 it must have

been very new.]

 

38. WILLIAM WILTON TOULMIN *13212 1767? - 1820

Solicitor(1783) of Aldermanbury and Carmarthen St, d. 12 Dec 1820 "the victim of

financial misfortunes".   His uncle *1322 Samuel Toulmin (33) was still at 14

Walbrook in 1790 (see above).

..Law: Attorneys: Toulmin, William, 14 Walbrook                            1790U

                                                                   +1797U

..Law: Attorneys: Toulmin, Wm, Cullum st. Fenchurch st.                    1791U

                                                                   +1793U

..Law: Attorneys: Toulmin, Wm 68 Cornhill [in Common Pleas only]           1796U

..Attorneys: Toulmin, William, 12 Lamb's buildings, Conduit st.            1796F

[This address is marked "[?]" in the copy, and is problematic.  London/1813 marks

"Lambs Buildings", but nos. 1-10 only, between Cherry Tree Alley & Blue Anchor Alley

(modern Lambs Passage & Errol St), Bunhill Fields, and there is also a "Lambs

Building" in the Temple.  Neither is anywhere near the only Conduit St (the same as

the modern Conduit St W1) or Lamb's Conduit St WC1.]

..Toulmin, Wm. Attorney, 42 Coleman st.                                    1800H

..Toulmin, William,   Attorney,  Princes st.  Kennington                   1802H

[On London/1813, the part of Salamanca St parallel to the river was "Princes st." -

but would seem to be Lambeth rather than Kennington.]

..Toulmin, William,   Attorney,  54 Blackman st.                           1802H

..Toulman, Wm  11 Union st, Borough                                        1804B

..Toulmin, W.   Attorney, Union st, Southwark                              1805H

                                                                   +1808H

[Probably the modern Union St, SE1, so named on London/1813; but the name was very

common, and there were two others in Southwark, near St Georges Circus. The terms

"Borough" and "Southwark" were interchangeable.]

..Toulmin, Wm     Attorney,   Bread St.                                    1809H

..Toulmin, Wm.  Atty,, Commissioner for taking Affidavits in Herts, Essex, 1811H

                   Cambridge, Bucks, and Bedford,   45 Aldermanbury

..Toulmin, W.  Solicitor, 1 Carmarthen street, Tottenham Court Rd          1817J

             +1817Un(Wm,Attorney),1818J,1819R(Wm),1820R,1822Un(Wm,Attorney)

[Carmarthen St is now University St, WC1: renamed before 1862.]

 

39. WILLIAM TOULMIN (unidentified)

None of the William Toulmins in the London families seem to fit the date; and the

only one in the Preston family who might (William Toulmin 1781 - 1848) was "a

well-known Quaker minister in the town, who practised as a surgeon"; but his brother

John Toulmin (1790 - 1870) was a cheese merchant from 1818.  Perhaps William tried

opening a London branch.

..Toulman, Wm.  Cheesemonger, 10 Vere st, Clare mkt.                       1826R

                                                                   +1827R

[Vere St continued Clare Market to the north-west, and has been wiped out by

Kingsway.]

 

40. WILLIAM TOULMIN  **132133, b. about 1756, d. 14 Mar 1826.

Second son of Robert Toulmin (29).  I have not bothered to distinguish references to

"William" and "Wm".

..Toulmin, William, soap manufactory, Gravel lane, Southwark               1789L

 +1790Ba,1790U,1790W,1790L,1791U,1791L,1792U,1792L,1793A,1793L,1794L,

  1794K,1794W,1795K,1795L,1795B,1796F,1796L,1796U,1796M,1797L,1797U,

  1797K,1798L,1798K,1799L,1799K,1800K,1800H,1800B(3 Gravel Lane),1801K,

  1802H,1802K,1802B(W),1803K,1804B,1804K,1805H,1805K,1806K,1807K,1808H

..Toulmin, William, Gravel lane, Southwark, member of (livery of)          1798U

 Dyers' Co.

..Toulmin, Wm. Soap manufact., Great Guildford st. Borough                 1809K

                                                                   +1810H

[Probably a confusion at the time Bandy Leg Walk was renamed "Gt Guildford St" and

the upper part of Gravel Lane "Gt Suffolk St". Cf. London/1747, London/1813.]

..Toulmin, Wm. Soap manufacturer, Great Suffolk st. Borough                1808K

   +1809H,1811H(Gt.Suffolk st,Strand, corrected in Addenda to

   Southwark as in all following),1812K,1813K,1814K,1815K,1816K,1817K

..Toulmin and Barlow, soap makers, Great Suffolk street, Borough           1817Un

  +1817J(14 Gt Suffolk st),1818J(14 Gt Suffolk st),1818K,1819R,1819K,

  1820R,1820K,1821K,1822Un,1822K,1822R,1823R,1823K,1823Pi,1824K,1824Pi,1825K

[Borough and Southwark are used indifferently in the above.  London/1813 does not

mark a no. 14, but it was probably opposite the Manufactory, a few yards NW of Kings

Court.]

 Toulmin Cattley (**13213338) wrote this short history in 1896 (Cattley o):

Mr Robt. Toulmin ... came to "the Soap business" about 1733 as near as it can be got

at - the business was then in Gravel Lane Southwark ... Robt. Toulmin was succeeded

in the business at Gravel Lane by his son William Toulmin who was my grandfather, he

married a daughter of Mr & Mrs Joseph Barlow & he moved his business to the old

Surrey house of correction which he bought in 1804. Mr Toulmin left the Soap

business to his clerk John Anderson & his nephew Joseph Toulmin Barlow who carried

it on for some years as Barlow & Anderson.  Afterwards (after J.T.Barlows death) my

father [Stephen Wildman Cattley] put money into the business & then the firm became

Anderson & Cattley as now.  My brother Mark succeeded to the business with John

Anderson & his son John Barker Anderson both of whom were out of the firm as

partners when I joined my brother Mark in it in Oct 1862.

  [1733 is surely too early: Robert was only 16.  The story about the "house of

correction" is plausible: it must have been the Soap Manufactory marked on

London/1813, between the modern Glasshouse St and Gt Suffolk St (24Dc, Nat.grid

TQ319797); on London/1747 the site was open ground, so it was not very "old".

London/1813 also marks "The County Goal" (sic) on the site of the modern (1921)

Sessions House, Newington Causeway, and "King's Bench"  between there and Gt Suffolk

St (site of modern Collinson St): perhaps originally three prisons were built on

the then outskirts of the Borough.  As noted above, the business was "Toulmin &

Barlow" 1817-1825, so probably JTB was taken into partnership about 10 years before

WT's death in 1826: "William Toulmin gave up the business to his nephew, Joseph

Toulmin Barlow and went to live at Croydon" (Cattley h).  The telegraphic address on

the firm's notepaper (Cattley l) in May 1896 was "Cattley's".]

 

41. WILLIAM TOULMIN  *1321, bapt.30 Dec 1739, d. 25 Dec 1800

M.D., surgeon & historian, of Hackney, Middx, and Chard, Somerset.

..Surgeons: Toulmin, William, Hackney                                      1791U

                                                             +1793U,1796F

..Toulmin, Wm. Surgeon & Apothecary, Mare st. Hackney                      1800H

 

42. WILLIAM TOULMIN, apothecary & surgeon of Prescot st.

He is clearly distinct from the last (41).  The details in Wallis distinguish a

William Toulmin, surgeon, of Prescot St, Goodman Fields, or St Mary Whitechapel

taking apprentices from 1766 to 1781 and listed as MRCS: he is dated as roughly

1755(?) - 1813.   If he were born about 1730-40, this would make sense. He left a

Will proved 17 Jan 1806, and was probably brother of Lt John Toulmin RN: see App.O.

   Another rather shadowy William is *134 William Toulmin of Hackney, thought to

have been a younger brother of *133 Caleb (and hence also of *132 Abraham Toulmin

(1)), and to have m. Mary Howson in 1758 (Flood, p.5).  Possibly two William

Toulmins have been confused: it is difficult to believe a younger brother of Abraham

Toulmin was still practising in 1805, while marriage in 1758 would fit better with a

brother of Lt John Toulmin.

..Toulmin, William, Apothecary, no.48 Prescot st.                          1784Ba

..Surgeon: Toulmin, William, Prescot st.                                   1790U

                               +1791U,1793U,1796U,1796F(Wm,Gt.Prescot st)

..Toulmin, Wm. Surgeon, New row, Prescot st., Goodman's fields             1800U

..Toulmin, W. 54 Gt. Prescot St., Goodm.fi.                                1800B

        +1802H(William,34 Gt Prescot st),1802B,1804B,1805H(Wm),1808H(Wm),

        1809H(Wm,Prescot st)

[Prescot St (London/1747), Great Prescott St (1813), Gr. Prescot St. (1862), now

Prescot St again; "Goodman's Fields" to the N was an open space at least until 1813.

St Mary's Whitechapel was on the north. Presumably "34" Gt Prescot St. was a

misprint; 54 was on the N side, about the middle, in 1813.]

 

NO INITIAL OR CHRISTIAN NAME KNOWN:-

 

43.  As a guess, perhaps **132163 Joseph Petty Toulmin; but before 1826 he was a

partner in Remington, Stephenson, Remington, and Toulmin, bankers: see App.H.  Not

inconsistent with living in Bearbinder Lane in 1805 (20).

..Toulmin & Mason, bill-brokers, 34 Lombard street                         1815K

 

44. The following may be the William Toulmin, hatter, who d. in Lancaster 1844 (see

***3111419). Another possibility is Roger Toulmin, tailor, draper and hosier (32),

who is not listed after 1822.

..Toulmin & Briggs, hatmakers, 14 Bishopsgate within                       1823K

                                +1823R(hatter),1824K,1824Pi(hatter),1825K

[Bishopsgate-within, or Bishopsgate St., which I presume were both the same as the

modern Bishopsgate, EC2, was quite a haunt of Toulmins at various times: see

Augustus, Henry Heyman, Calvert, and Samuel above.]

 

45.

..Toulmin & Jones, livery stables and job masters, South Island pl.        1844T

                                                          Clapham Rd.

 

46. In the following, "upholders"=upholsterers.  *13213 Maria Toulmin married a Col.

Kerr: possibly some connection, though it is hard to see what relation of Maria's

could be involved.

..Toulmin & Kerr, Upholders, 10 and 11 Brokers row, Moorfields             1802H

[Brokers Row is now Blomfield St, EC2.]

 

47. I have checked this puzzling entry in the original, and confirm it is exactly as

quoted here.  No Member of Parliament with a name remotely like Toulmin or Tounlim

is recorded either in the list in the same edition of Holden or in "History of

Parliament: The Commons 1790-1820" (Secker & Warburg for History of Parliament

Trust).  The entry immediately follows "Tounlim, Saml.", who is undoubtedly (33), so

probably the spelling is wrong and the dash may be meant to indicate "Saml."

Obviously not identical with (18) despite the profession.

..Tounlim ____, M.P., ship and insurance broker, 9 London st.              1805H

                                                                   +1808H

 

48. The following was presumably another widow, like Mrs Toulmin of 8 Doughty st.

..Toulmin, Mrs, 5 Lodge Place, Regents Park                 [Court Guide]  1840R

[On the 1862 map, "Lodge Place" was the SW half of the modern Lodge Rd.]

 

The following from Birmingham were also noted; the second is doubtless Joshua

Toulmin, *1331, honorary D.D. of Harvard (1794), d. Paradise Row, Birmingham, 23

July 1815.

 

49.

..Toulmin & English, needlemakers & factory, 24 St Pauls Square            1811H

                                                        +1816H(Merchants)

50.

..Toulmin, Rev. Dr., Paradise row                                          1809H

                                                                   +1811H

 

A NOTE ON NAVY AGENTS

Four, or perhaps five, of the family seem to have been involved in this business.

                  ***31113 Richard Toulmin 1689-1747

               _________________|___________________              

              |                                     |

  ***311133 Oliver T. 1721-1783          ***311136 Abraham T. 1727-1800

 (24) above   |                           __________|____________

              |                          |                       |

***3111332 Richard T.     ***3111367 Abraham T.     ***3111363 Oliver T. (m. *13211)

(28) above  1761-1818     (4) above  1765-1819        (25) above 1755-1844

                                         |                       |

                   ***31113671 Samuel Simpson T.      *132112 Oliver Hughes T.

                   (34) above  1802-1871              (26) above 1793-1874      

 

ME90 reports ***311133 Oliver as "Navy agent with Thos. Mohringk Wormwood St London

before 1761" (Wormwood St is off Old Broad St); the term "Navy Agent" first appears

in the directories in 1779.   Oliver seems to have taken his son and his nephew

Oliver into partnership shortly before his death, as the firm are listed as

"Toulmin, Oliver, Richard & Oliver, navy agents, 37 Crutched Friars" in 1783; but

they almost immediately moved to 10 "Listle" St, Leicester Sq (1783-90).  Oliver

snr's name is retained until 1786, after which "Richard & Oliver" are listed at 16

Essex St, Strand.   However, Oliver jnr is also listed separately, though at the

same address, from 1791; presumably he set up for himself, though his name was

retained in the old firm.  Kal/1797 (p.130) lists T.G.Mohringk, Wormwood-street and

O.Toulmin, 16 Essex-street as Navy agents .

   An unsettled time ensued around the turn of the century.  According to ME90,

***3111363 Oliver was declared bankrupt in Feb 1796, and his name disappears after

1798. "Richard & Oliver, 16 Essex St" are replaced by "Richard & Abraham, 23 Surrey

St" from 1800: this of course is Oliver jnr's brother ***3111367 Abraham.   Shortly

after (1802), Abraham also appears on his own, at 2 Hart St, Bloomsbury; however, in

1806 Abraham was still living in Surrey St, opposite Richard. The firm remains

"Richard & Abraham" until 1806, and Richard's draft Will of about 1806 refers to "me

and my Cousin Mr Ab. Toulmin in the business of Navy Agents".

   Richard was "declared lunatic" in Mar 1807 (JMH, ME90); he had been "unfit for

public business" for some months, and Abraham had been loooking for a new partner

(PRO PROB37/355).  He found John Copland:  a Chancery order of 15 Aug 1815 (PRO

C33/618 f.1605v) states:

    the sd= Richd= Toulmin the Lunatic carrd= on the buss= of a Navy Agent in ptship

    with  the sd= Abm= Toulmin in Surry St= in the Strand for the space of 10 Years

    & upwards prevsly= to & up to the time of the Lunacy of him the sd= Richd=

    Toulmin & that the sd= Abram. Toulmin  contind= to carry on the sd= buss=

    subseqy= to the lunacy of the sd= Richd= Toulmin &  ... the ptship betn= Richard

    Toulmin the Lunatic & Abram. Toulmin was dissolved on the 31st day of Augt= 1806

    ... from the 1st day of Septr= 1806 the sd= Abram= Toulmin assumed Mr John

    Copland as his ptner= in such buss= & ... the new ptship= of Toulmin & Copland

    opened a new set of books ...

(Continued in C33/625, f.30, 8 Nov 1815 and f.65, 23 Nov 1815.)  The listing as

"Toulmin, Rd. & J.Copland" from 1810-5 must have been an error.  (However, Abraham

& Richard Toulmin, navy agents of Surrey St, are listed in a Bank of England Will

extract at Soc.Gen. at 19 Oct 1815 as holding £1100 of 3 consols with a William

Pitman of Andover, Surgeon (JMH): I would assume this was some business left over

from before 1806.)

   Another Chancery suit, Oliver Toulmin v John Copland, ran from 1819-22 (PRO

C33/672 etc; see index C69); I turned up a few records, but none indicate what it

was about. PRO C106/72-5 "Toulmin v Copland: Prize lists", dated 1801-16 presumably

bears on this case.  There was also a case Abraham Toulmin v. Steere 1814-6 (PRO

C33/625 f.114r), and numerous other suits seem to have followed the deaths of

Richard and Abraham, e.g. Toulmin v. Brown, Anderson, Clarkson.  I have not checked

which Toulmin was involved.  See App.B,3f, for refs. in PRO class C30 (1773-96)

probably concerning either the business or Oliver's family.

   The name "Toulmin" is eventually dropped from the firm only after 1822, though

Richard died in 1818 and Abraham in 1819).  "Copland, John, 23 Surrey-street,

Strand" is still listed as a Navy Agent in the "British Almanac" for 1842.

   Meanwhile, however, Abraham was also listed on his own as a Navy agent at 2 Hart

St (1802-9) and 7 Southampton st (1819), both in Bloomsbury: perhaps he was running

a separate business.

   There is a minor mystery about the proving of Abraham's will in 1819.  "Oliver

Toulmin of Craven Buildings, Drury Lane, navy agent well acquainted with the above,

appeared personally 25 June 1819" (PRO PROB11/1617 f.352).  On the face of it, this

is ***3111363 Oliver re-surfacing after 20 years; but would he not have been

described as "brother of the above"?  I suspect that it was his and Charlotte

Toulmin's son, *132112 Oliver Hughes T. 1793-1874, and that he had been in the

business with his uncle Abraham.  If he had the opportunity to carry it on after

Abraham's death, he seems to have decided not to take it, but instead set up as a

music seller, first listed in 1822, and subsequently developing into "professor &

teacher".   Abraham's eldest son, Samuel Simpson Toulmin, embarked on his legal

career at about the same time, being articled in 1821.

 

ABBREVIATIONS AND YEARS SCANNED

  A  Andrews     1789,90,93    

  B  Boyle       1794,95,1800,02,04

  Ba Bailey's Western Midlands (inc. London),1783, & Bailey's British, 1784-5

                 1783,84,85,90

  C  Complete    1755,58,63,65

  CC Complete Compting House Companion  1763

  CP Complete Pocket Book               1776,79

  F  Fenwick     1796

  H  Holden's Triennial (Annual from 1811) [to]1800,01[supp],02[/3/4],05[/6/7],

                 08,09[/10/11],11,16

  J  Johnstone   1817,18

  K  Kent        1753,54,55,59,61,63,65,67,68,69,70,71,72,74,75,76,78,79,80,81,82,

                 85,86,88,89,91,92,93,94,95,97,98,99,1800,01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,

                 09,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25

  L  Lowndes     1772,74,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,06,97,

                 98,99

  M  McCulloch   1796

  NC New Complete    1768,70,72,75,83

  P  Payne       1768

  Pi Pigot       1823,24,27,28,32,33,36

  R  Robson      1819,20,22,23,26,27,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,38,39,40,41,43

  T  Thompson    1844

  U  Universal   1760,63,90*,91,92,93,96*,97,98

                           * 1790 wrongly dated 1791, 1796 dated 1797

  Un Underhill Biennial 1816[/7], Triennial 1817[/8/9],1822[/3/4]

  W  Wakefield   1790,94

  Wa Watkins     1852,53,55

 

INDEX OF STREETS

  The postal district and National Grid reference are from a modern directory,

checked against London/1862; partially checked against London/1813 and

London/1747.  Where there is no modern road of the name, I tried to find one in the

right area on the 1862 map, and give the modern equivalent on the right (bracketed

if not exact).

   The grid references indicate half-kilometre squares by the letters  AB

                                                                       CD

                                  Item District  Grid ref. Modern name or notes

  Abchurch La.                      7  EC4       3280B

  Albany Rd                        37 ?SE5      ?3377A    See note under (37)

  Aldermanbury                     38  EC2       3281C

  Austin Friars                    18  EC2       3281D

  Bank side, Southwark             29  SE1       3280A

  Bearbinder La. nr. the           20  EC4       3281D    (Mansion House Pl.)

            Mansion House

  Bedford Sq.                       3  WC1       2981B

  Bishopsgate-within            33,44  EC2       3381A    Bishopsgate (on 1862

   (Bishopsgate St,                                       map, Bishopsgate St,

    Bishopsgate St within)                                divided into "within"

                                                          and"without")

  Blackman St.                     38  SE1       3279A    S part of Borough High St

  Blenheim Rd, St Johns Wood        8  NW8       2683C

  Bread St.                        38  EC4       3281C

  Brokers Row, Moorfields          46  EC2       3281B    Blomfield St

  Carmarthen St, Tottenham Ct Rd   38  WC1       2982C    University St

  Charlotte Row, Mansion House     33  EC4       3281D    (Walbrook)

  Coleman St.                    7,38  EC2       3281D

  Cornhill                         38  EC3       3281D

  Crutched Friars            24,25,28  EC3       3380A

  Cullum St, Fenchurch St          38  EC3       3380A

  Doughty St.                    5,34  WC1       3082D

  East Place, Lambeth              33  SE11      3178A    (Lollard Pl.)

  Essex St, Strand              25,28  WC2       3180A

  Furnival's Inn                17,30  EC1       3181A    (Brooke St)

  George St, Mansion House         34  EC4       3281D    (Mansion House Place)

  George Yd, Lombard St          9,18  EC3       3281D

  Gravel Lane                   29,40  SE1       3180D    N part of Gt Suffolk St

  Gt Prescot St, Goodman Fields    42  E1        3380B    Prescot St

  Gt Guildford St                  40  SE1       3180C

  Gt St Helens, Bishopsgate St.7,9,18  EC3       3381C

  Gt Suffolk St, Borough (or       40  SE1       3279D    S part of Gt Suffolk St

     Southwark)

  Hackney Terrace                  13  E9        3584D    (Cassland Rd)

  Hart St, Bloomsbury               4  WC1       3081A    Bloomsbury Way

  Kennington Rd                    26  SE11      3178D    (Kennington Park Rd)

  Knightsbridge                     6  SW1       2779B

  Lamb's Bldgs, Conduit St         38 ?W1        2980A    Conduit St

                                    or WC1       3082D    Lamb's Conduit St.

  Listle St, Leicester Sq    24,25,28  WC2       2980B    Lisle St

          (or Leicester fields)

  Lodge Place, Regents Park        48  NW8       2682B    (SW part of Lodge Rd)

  Lombard St                       43  EC3       3281D

  London St                        47  EC3       3380A

  Lower Clapton                    14  E5        3585

  Mansell St, Goodman Fields        3  E1        3381D    (Middle of Mansell St)

  Mare St, Hackney     14,15,21,23,41  E8        3484D

  Mincing Lane                     11  EC3       3380A

  New Bond St.                     32  W1        2880B

  New Boswell Ct, Carey St         17  WC2       3081D    (Carey St)

  New Inn, Strand                  12  WC2       3081D    (New Inn Passage)

  New London St, Crutched Friars    3  EC3       3380A

  New Square, Lincolns Inn         34  WC2       3081D

  Newington Pl, Kennington Rd.     26  SE11      3178D    (Kennington Park Rd)

  Old Broad St                  11,24  EC3       3381C

  Old Gravel La, Wapping (or      1,2  E1        3480D     Wapping Lane

          Shadwell or Ratcliff)

  Old Jewry                     11,34  EC2       3281D

  Park Place, Lambeth              26  SE1       3079D    (Carlisle Lane)

  Prescot St, Goodman Fields       42  E1        3380B   

  Princes St, Kennington           38  SE1       3078B    (Salamanca St)

  Robert St, Hampstead Rd          31  NW1       2982A    (E.part of Robert St)

  Rotherhithe St                   10  SE16      3680C

  Sise La, Bucklersbury            22  EC4       3281D

  Southampton St, Bloomsbury        4  WC1       3081A    Southampton Place

  South Island Pl, Clapham Rd      45  SW9       3177C

  Spakeman's Buildings, East,      23                     Not identified.

         Kings Cross, Hackney

  Staple's Inn, Holborn            31  WC2       3181A    Staples Inn Buildings

  Strand                           35  WC2       3080B

  Surrey St, Strand              4,28  WC2       3080B

  Surry Place, Kennington Green    26  SE11      3178C    (Kennington Rd)

  Temple Chambers                  34  EC4       3180A

  Threadneedle St                   7  EC2       3281D

  Union St, Borough (or            38  SE1       3280C

            Southwark)

  Upper Clapton                    15  E5        3487

  Upper East Smithfield            16  E1        3380B    East Smithfield

  Upper Thames St                  36  EC4       3280A

  Vere St, Clare mkt               39  WC2       3081D    (Kingsway)

  Verulam Bldgs                    27  WC1       3181A    (Verulam St?)

  Walbrook                      33,38  EC4       3281D

  Wapping High St                   7  E1        3480D

 

FOOTNOTE.  Toulmin St SE1 (3279A) got its name after 1862, when it is still marked

as John St.  "Named after Robert & William Toulmin, soapmakers, of Christchurch,

Southwark, named in a deed of 1788" (Southwark Libararies, per DG and JMH, 12 May

1991).